tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post8911403427958021595..comments2023-08-27T04:22:55.468-07:00Comments on The Literary Lab: The Hijacking Of Original LanguageUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-13798525331562282662011-03-24T23:27:53.202-07:002011-03-24T23:27:53.202-07:00I will dig my head in the sand and scream the day ...I will dig my head in the sand and scream the day 'lol' is deemed acceptable in the publishing world. I am all for the evolution of language, but seriously, that's de-evolution.McKenzie McCannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11707799179783394809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-42468393610703762032011-03-23T13:55:59.763-07:002011-03-23T13:55:59.763-07:00I think (I hope) I've reached a stage where I ...I think (I hope) I've reached a stage where I can see <i>how</i> a writer I admire has done something, so I can try out the <i>idea</i> without copying the actual words that writer used. For example, I can try out poet Seamus Heaney's use of large natural forces as metaphors for intimate moments without stealing his examples. I can incorporate Sam Beckett's observation that the grotesque and the humorous are closely related without stealing his passages. That sort of influence, I think, helps us to find our own way through the task of writing without aping someone else's style.<br /><br />@Domey: You can have "bone aching" if you like it. I trade you that for "six words for a hat."scott g.f.baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726743149139510832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-67504861369260845482011-03-23T13:04:42.001-07:002011-03-23T13:04:42.001-07:00Interesting thought...
Hmmm...Interesting thought... <br /><br />Hmmm...Misha Gerrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06364173848456424521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-77929620674350900642011-03-23T13:03:30.962-07:002011-03-23T13:03:30.962-07:00Michelle, Yes, I think experience is so important....Michelle, Yes, I think experience is so important. Imagination is important too. Sometimes I try harder to be original and quickly realize how difficult it is.<br /><br />Donna, if you do want to be more original at some point (and I honestly don't think it's a MUST) then I do hope you'll try for it!Davin Malasarnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09385823575081492949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-27915792587342851702011-03-23T12:45:31.918-07:002011-03-23T12:45:31.918-07:00Some people are adept creating their own unique la...Some people are adept creating their own unique language. Me, I have to borrow from the greats :)<br /><br />......dholedolorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08715849844092553699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-28212345672531393772011-03-23T11:41:57.340-07:002011-03-23T11:41:57.340-07:00I do that 1 thing all the time!!!11!
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I love t...I do that 1 thing all the time!!!11!<br /><br />:)<br /><br />I love this post. I think the more we live the better we get at our own voice and art. I do think imitation is a powerful tool, though. I've learned a lot by imitating other writers, but at some point you have to turn around and make it your own and start creating your own stuff worth imitating.Michelle D. Argylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09696465137285587646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-87755826540804646462011-03-23T11:33:29.457-07:002011-03-23T11:33:29.457-07:00Lavanya, That makes total sense to me. I've le...Lavanya, That makes total sense to me. I've learned a ton from copying the masters. It is very educational, and I think you're right that it also helps you copy life later on. I'm thinking that the transition step is a hard one.Davin Malasarnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09385823575081492949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-12824964027211814782011-03-23T11:23:13.003-07:002011-03-23T11:23:13.003-07:00Domey- which two things are the same? the 'ref...Domey- which two things are the same? the 'reflecting the way people actually speak' and the 'writer's creation of language?' If that's what you mean- I didn't/don't disagree with you. I think you have a point- it is possible to have a better shot at 'creating language' when you create from life than from art..Of course it is instructive to base your work on art- but doing that will only get you 'this' far- just as painting a printout of a photo of a painting by Degas will. Finally you have to look more closely at the life that inspired the painting to get any fresh insight. Does that make sense? So- yes, I do agree with you. Though I guess, imitating art makes you better at imitating life? (which is probably too obvious a comment)<br /><br />LavanyaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-29031459084216644712011-03-23T10:51:31.455-07:002011-03-23T10:51:31.455-07:00It's too obvious. A phrase like "bone ach...It's too obvious. A phrase like "bone aching" would be better, but I'll let you keep that one. If my characters were happier this wouldn't be a problem.Davin Malasarnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09385823575081492949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-79545299288221425782011-03-23T10:50:21.428-07:002011-03-23T10:50:21.428-07:00Maybe you're supposed to hate it. Why do you h...Maybe you're supposed to hate it. Why do you hate it?scott g.f.baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726743149139510832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-53649886055706036862011-03-23T10:26:12.685-07:002011-03-23T10:26:12.685-07:00P.S. I just wrote this line and I hate it, and yet...P.S. I just wrote this line and I hate it, and yet I'm not deleting it. Why?<br /><br />"Adriana felt a sadness that was deeper than tears. "Davin Malasarnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09385823575081492949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-68702450746061418172011-03-23T10:24:45.508-07:002011-03-23T10:24:45.508-07:00Scott, Kuzhali is very mysterious to me. I've ...Scott, Kuzhali is very mysterious to me. I've known her for several years and I still have no idea what she looks like. I respect that about her, but I also want to know who I'm talking to!Davin Malasarnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09385823575081492949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-47127041426898634192011-03-23T10:23:36.399-07:002011-03-23T10:23:36.399-07:00Lavanya, I agree with you. For me, the two things ...Lavanya, I agree with you. For me, the two things are the same, but maybe that's just lazy thinking on my part. I saw her described as a satirist, which I think it accurate, although that's a bit more narrow than I'd like to be. I figured a lot of what she was doing would be even funnier and have more impact if I lived in India. It's educational in a way.Davin Malasarnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09385823575081492949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-818574706817365472011-03-23T10:11:05.510-07:002011-03-23T10:11:05.510-07:00I think that Kuzhali's doing complex things wi...I think that Kuzhali's doing complex things with her use of language on her blog, but I think it has more to do with holding a mirror up to culture--as Lavanya suggests--than with creating a personal voice in the Joyce/Faulkner/Shakespeare manner. It feels very tongue-in-cheek to me, though I enjoy what she's doing a lot. But it's so mannered that I almost feel she's hiding behind it, building walls more than expressing herself. So I'm conflicted about things like this. Likely that's because I have some thoughts about voice and identity after having used very stylized narrative voices in my last two novels. I'll mull this over a bit!!!1111!scott g.f.baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726743149139510832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-84302479547278411752011-03-23T09:46:39.042-07:002011-03-23T09:46:39.042-07:00As you know, I 'discovered' Kuzhali's ...As you know, I 'discovered' Kuzhali's writing and her blog because of your mention of her on this blog and I LOVE her writing and what she does with the blog..lol (c'mon- I had to!!11!..:))<br /><br />yes, she does that a lot in her blog- most of the language reflects how people actually speak..even her 'okbai' (that is exactly how many people in India say bye- me included).Also a lot of the time she takes over the language of people whom she disagrees with in an almost 'Colbert-ish' way..<br />It's been a while since I've visited her blog- will catch up this weekend..<br /><br />LavanyaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-39091046984764231842011-03-23T09:12:32.227-07:002011-03-23T09:12:32.227-07:00Chuck,
Sorry if this in nonsensical. It's jus...Chuck, <br />Sorry if this in nonsensical. It's just something that excited me.Davin Malasarnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09385823575081492949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092805684169371138.post-17977122061887195852011-03-23T08:15:18.428-07:002011-03-23T08:15:18.428-07:00??????????????????????????????????????Chuck H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07266126276487521854noreply@blogger.com